Der Mad Stamper might know. I think he's the main creative genius that
worked on that, I believe! That web site is a beauty!

Best regards,

Amanda Briles

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:boxdn@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 8:47 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] New clues page


I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get, or send me the
gif. for the the new clues page being used in some states. I'm
ferring to the one that looks like an old map or scroll page. I
would like to use it on my own clues web page.
Thanks
Steve
Thawing out!!!!!!!!!!



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Steve writes:

> I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get, or send me the
> gif. for the the new clues page being used in some states. I'm
> ferring to the one that looks like an old map or scroll page. I
> would like to use it on my own clues web page.
> Thanks
> Steve
> Thawing out!!!!!!!!!!


Steve,

Glad to hear you like the scroll page graphics. Feel free to use this page
for your own clues. However, this particular page is not just one GIF
image... the best way to incorporate it is to copy the code for the entire
page and then modify it by replacing the text with your clues. The code has
been written to pull the proper images from the LbNA site.

Perhaps the most convenient page to use as a template is the "Submit Clues"
page at http://www.letterboxing.org/lbna/inform.htm

In most browsers, you can right-click on the page to access a menu of choices
that includes "view page source" or something similar. Then just copy and
paste the code into a blank text file, and save it with the extension HTM.
(Text editors such as Notepad or Simple Text are perfect for working with
text files.)

Finally, using your text editor (or your favorite webpage editor) delete the
original text and insert your clues. You do not have to have the actual
images on your server for it to display properly... the graphics will be
pulled down from the LbNA site when you view your page.

For more info, visit this site:
http://www.rain.org/~mkummel/homebrew.html

Hope this helps,
Mitch (Der Mad Stamper)
LbNA site designer and co-manager

Thanks Mr. Stamper
Wasn't sure if I was going to be able to follow those instructions;
due to my lack of web knowledge but bamm...... It work and looks
great now that my clues look the look time to get back placing some
more boxes. I have five stamps carved just need to find the time to
place them. Thanks again.
Steve 'Boxdn'
"everyone loves a parade...."

> You do not have to have the actual images on your server for it to display
> properly... the graphics will be pulled down from the LbNA site when you
> view your page.

Do not do this.

Save these images to your server if you wish to use them (and you have
permission, as you evidently do). Linking to images on a third party
server (in this case the provider for letterboxing.org), is bandwidth
theft, and in particular is explicitly against the AUP of the LbNA
provider.

Sorry for another "etiquette" post, but this is actually an important
issue on the 'net. Prolly not a big deal if just you do this, but the
provider _will_ notice if lots of people start linking to images on
their server, and using their bandwidth (and its the principal of it ...)

Cheers,
Randy

--- In letterbox-usa@y..., Randy Hall wrote:
>

>
> Do not do this.
>


Well, if you say so.

Steve, another option, and the one I've used when making "scroll"
pages, is to copy the graphics onto my own web site. I only did it
that way so that the pages would look right in my webpage editor.

It's easy to grab all three of them: just go to one of the pages that
shows them and right-click over the graphic. Then click "save image"
and put it in a folder and give it a name.

Hope that helps, Jay in CT

Steve writes:

> I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get, or send me the
> gif. for the the new clues page being used in some states. I'm
> ferring to the one that looks like an old map or scroll page. I
> would like to use it on my own clues web page.


Mitch writes:

> Steve,
> Glad to hear you like the scroll page graphics. Feel free
> to use this page for your own clues. However, this particular
> page is not just one GIF image... the best way to incorporate
> it is to copy the code for the entire page and then modify it
> by replacing the text with your clues. The code has been
> written to pull the proper images from the LbNA site.


Randy writes:

> Do not do this.
>
> Save these images to your server if you wish to use them
> (and you have permission, as you evidently do). Linking
> to images on a third party server (in this case the provider
> for letterboxing.org), is bandwidth theft, and in particular
> is explicitly against the AUP of the LbNA provider.


Jay writes:

> Well, if you say so.
>
> Steve, another option, and the one I've used when making "scroll"
> pages, is to copy the graphics onto my own web site. I only did it
> that way so that the pages would look right in my webpage editor.


Steve writes:


> What to do Mitch????????


Dear Steve (and others),

I'm glad Randy spoke up about the fact that allowing hot-links to the LbNA
site is against the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) of our service provider. I
was not involved in setting up this service, so was not aware of this
restriction. Please ignore my previous advice: do NOT link directly to
graphics on the LbNA site. I will be changing the code of the Submit Clues
page to include relative links, so that this will no longer be possible as
described in my earlier posting.

Fortunately, I have set up my own accounts for the specific purpose of
sharing my artwork with others, and am not restricted by these limitations on
these accounts. The bandwidth is mine; I have pre-paid for its use. You are
not a thief to use it with my permission. Therefore, if you wish to use the
scrolling page, you may perform the same routine described earlier, except
you should use the following URL as a template, rather than the LbNA Submit
Clues page:

http://members.aol.com/letterboxr/scroll/page.htm

Please note that I am NOT giving permission to use this template or these
graphics for ANY purpose other than posting letterbox clues. DO NOT use this
design for your homepage or anything else besides letterboxing clues that are
intended to be linked to the Lettterboxing North America website. Although I
did NOT previously specify as such, you also have my permission to copy the
graphics to your own server, as Jay describes, although this practice is also
restricted to the sole purpose of creating clue pages that are to be linked
to the LbNA site.

Sincerely,
-- Mitch